Bieber now vs. Joey McIntyre circa 1988

A very comical person I know posted this status yesterday and boy did it cause a debate...

"Question: Fight between Justin Bieber and Joey McIntyre circa 1988. Who would win?"

The comments are as follows:
1) Bieber. He's got the street smarts that McIntyre lacks!
2) Ditto. Plus he has Diddy, Jay-Z and Usher on his side, so he probably wouldn't even have to fight.
3) Dude. Joey was a scrappy Boston boy. Bieber is from Canada. I think we know who has the street smarts. However, Jodie, good call on the Jay Z. Donnie could get his brother Mark and whoop up on Diddy & Usher. Jay Z can hold his own.

4) I am team Joey.
5) Canadians are much tougher than we give them hem credit for (hockey, frozen winters, caribou road crossings...) and while Bostonians may have their own street toughness, I doubt Joey ever so much as had a sleepover in any of those neighborhoods before meeting Donnie. I'm going with Bieber on this one although I wouldn't rule out a double tko

1) ‎^ Yes! Canadians are tough! At 16, I think Justin Bieber is tougher and taller than Joey McIntyre is today!
3) All very valid points, Mike. However, Joey got pushed around a lot by the older new kids when he joined. He had to fight his way through to get respect in the boy band. :-)
5) Baha, pushed around by the older New Kids? If that's the case then imagine all the internet bullying Bieber had to fight through, not only the respect he had to earn from the likes of Usher and the others mentioned above!

/cannot believe I'v...e been dragged into defending Bieber
3) I gave my heart to Joey when I was 12 and he still has it. But, I will confess that Justin can sing circles around Joey.
6) I am so ashamed of this entire thread. Mostly of you, Michael. One of all, Joey McIntyre may not have been born in Boston, but he was def raised on the streets of Beantown and found plenty of trouble before meeting Donnie (who, for me, is c...learly beyond reproach in this situation). And Tonya is right, he took a lot of hell from the other guys when he joined the band, however, T-Town, I'ma yell at you too, because in no way does Justin sing circles around Joey. Hanging Tough and the Step By Step albums contain a lot of full on ballads in which Joey is front and center, clearly without the assistance of autotune or other pitch correctors. While Justin has yet to prove his staying power after the ol' voice change, Joey's voice not only improved, but also afforded him a pretty decent solo career in the late 90s and early 2000s, not exactly the warmest climate for an aging boy bander.
But really, the main thing I want to weigh in on is this: Justin Beiber looks like Ellen Degeneres circa her unfortunate stint in bad Hollywood movies in the early 90s. Joey McIntyre (and the rest of the NKOTB boys) were not only wildly attractive (there is, naturally, some debate about Danny Wood, but I stand by what I said) but also built--even in their pubescent greatness--and were part of a movement in music that may be panned now, but was a really big deal then. What does Beiber have? The unfortunate Miley Cyrus and Sean Kingston grouping. A staying star that does not make.

Mostly, in 20 years, you won't see 30-year-old women flocking to Justin Beiber reunion concerts at the crab buffet at Harrah's Casino. You have, however, seen sold out events for NKOTB at MSG, The Pyramid, and other various locations Beiber is fighting to sell out now.

3) Bahahaha! #6 - I will bow to your passionate defense of Joey's singing ability. I think Justin is a better R&B singer - Joey is more of a crooner.
I love pop music - which means I have love for Bieber. But he will never match my love ...for Joey & the New Kids. I was 12/13 when they first arrived on the scene. Which means my hormones were out of whack I cried and screamed every time I saw their videos and watched their concert vids. I still do...just a little tear because my dream of meeting Joey has yet to come true. And yes, I know I'm on team girl now - but Joey was my first love. And I would...I really would.

Glad you're with me on who would win the fight. Beej is with us, too! But...I have to part ways with you on the Bieber hatin'. (Although I also question his staying power). I'm totally jealous that I won't be at his concert tonight with Abby and Jodie! Have fun, girls!

2) Just because you wouldn't go to a Justin Bieber reunion concert in 20 years doesn't mean the hoards of tweens showing up at Verizon Arena to watch him tonight wouldn't. They'll grow up eventually and probably argue on someone's Facebook sta...tus about the validity of their obsession with Bieber vs. Random Teen Pop Star of 2030. The fact is that Biebz' video for "Baby" is the most viewed video on YouTube right now. What are the stats on NKOTB videos? Let's face it, Little Biebzy is the most popular teenager in the world right now and he didn't need a whole hoodrat boy band to back him up, just some filipino kids he saw on YouTube.
Every generation has a Justin Bieber, Joey McIntyre, N*SYNC or whatever. Let's be real guys, Biebz and Joey McIntyre probably wouldn't fight anyway, they'd probably drink milkshakes and share stories of life on the road as a teen pop sensation. Then Donny Osmond, Justin Timberlake, and that one mildly successful Backstreet Boy would show up, and they'd throw a badass party while their parents are out of town.

3) Bahahaha #2! They would so have milkshakes together. But chocolate ones. Not vanilla. Vanilla is for wimps.
3) And as far as teen idols go...I think we all know the Leif Garrett would be the worst in a fight. He really had issues.
7) justin beiber was not yet thought of in 1988. ...at least joey was alive. i think the winner is obvious.
1) ‎#3 you will be with us in spirit tonight!
and didn't people question Donnie Osmonds staying power? I'm just saying...
 
8) Rhinos a really good and fun post. I would like to chime in on this argument, because I believe comparing Joey Mac to Justin Bieber is like comparing the Tin Woodsman to Darth Vader, it doesn't work due to the context. Joey Mac continue hi...s fame based on his previous work with NKTOB, which would put him on more of a parallel with Justin Timberlake.
Justin Bieber's popularity originates in a time when market segmentation is at it's highest, for him to garner the amount of recognition in this day in and age puts him on par with a Donny Osmond level celebrity (that and their giant teeth).
What's also interesting is that Bieber has appeal in different cultures, I mean the kid is played on BET. Parallels could even be drawn to him and (dare I say it) Eminem because of his rise from obscurity, grass roots support, being mentored by a successful Black recording artist (Usher and Dr. Dre respectively), and presence in a predominately African American music genre (Pop Rap and Pop R&B). Only time will tell if Bieber falls on the celebrity spectrum closer to Elvis or Vanilla Ice.
 
4) Ok, I just have to say this- Joey McIntyre sang "Please Don't Go Girl" before Bieber was even born. NKOTB crossed many lines of music, they were played across all genres. Joey had my heart at 6 years old when I saw him dance across that stage at the Target Center, and he has my heart today. Bieber, while talented, will always be remembered as the kid with the weird hair. Just saying.
 
2) With all due respect #4, he will be remembered like that by you, but not the millions of girls singing his songs right now. Only time will tell how successful Bieber truly is, and if he has the hearts of many young girls right now, I would say he is on the same playing field as Joey Mac WAS, if not higher. I am agreeing to disagree with all you old, closed minded fogeys. You know that the song "Baby" makes you want to dance, if you can't admit that, you're only lying to yourself.
 
3) Thanks for the passionate discussion! What a great way to spend a Friday in the office!
9) Joey with his hands tied behind his back. Beiber is a p word I don't say.
8) Haha, #9. I think Joey Mac would turn the other cheek since he dedicate his life to the Lord. Bieber however I'd from the Godless land of Ca-Na-Da. His god is science.
9) I think even God supports a Beiber beat down. Just saying...
9) I would like to take a moment to point out one thing about the Beibster...
He has successfully combined "lover" and "eenie meenie miney moe" into a successful song (only God knows why... and I think even He is confused on what went wrong the...re).
Based on this alone, I may switch teams to the Beibster... he is an evil genius. He'd probably orchestrate a coup with the Cullens or something.
 
2) #9--He also has a pretty rockin' rendition of Lovefool. And his song "Bigger" is actually quite inspirational. Peace. Love. And Justin Bieber!
 
9) He's evil and looks like a girl.
9) And sings like a girl.
9) And pees like a girl.
 
 
So what do you think?

Adults Say the Darndest Things

I think I have a sign on me that says, "Just say what you think. I have no feelings."

I was getting my coffee today (everything happens when I get coffee it seems) and someone to be left unnamed saw me and said, "Wow! Your hair is age appropriate!"

What?! I mean, the person liked the hair. They said it was cute. But... age appropriate?!

How bad was my hair before? Really? I don't come up to you and say everything on my mind...

GRRRR I'm a bear. A big, cranky bear.

Captain Cranky's back... uh oh...

Preface: I do not have diabetes. I'm not at a significant risk for diabetes. I also have remarkable blood pressure. I do not have high blood pressure in the slightest. May God not strike me down for what I'm about to say...

One way to quickly get under my skin and lose all of my sympathy is to go on and on about "woe is me, I have diabetes, there is no cure, its a slow cancer, my blood pressure is out of control, afraid of a stroke..." and then turn around and ask someone for a Honey Bun and salty chips.

Well yes, you would have some trouble with your high blood pressure and diabetes if you are packing away these types of foods!

I see this all the time! And it infuriates me! If you want to eat what you want, then fine, go for it. But do not expect me to feel bad for you. Don't waste my time with a sob-story please!

Justin and I have a family member that has diabetes and she is extremely obese. She doesn't take care of her insulin, she doesn't watch her sugar (other than eat what she wants). She can flat pound down a cheesecake but she will go on and on about how she feels bad... STOP!

It is my same opinion with weight loss. If you think you are fat, fine. Feel fat. But don't tell me about it as you are downing french fries and Dr. Pepper. I'm not saying you don't deserve to have indulgences. I certainly enjoy them. And I am occasionally unhappy with my body. But I will not bore anyone with those feelings unless I am super close to them and they know I'm having a crazy moment.

This is why I married such an amazing man. One thing he is not is a complainer. He doesn't even have high blood pressure. He is "pre-hypertensive." And what does he do immediately? Almost eradicates salt from his diet. And this is a big deal because he'd be giddy like a school girl on test day if I gave him a salt lick for Christmas. The kid loves salt. But his health is more important. So sacrifices have to be made. This is the man I married. I love it.

Captain Cranky out...

From Sam: "Meet My Friends"

Hi. My name is Sam. I'm awesome. See...

I would like to introduce you to my friends. You see, Momma and Daddy put me in the exersaucer thing all the time because when I'm in it, I jump around and smile and laugh a lot. So they think I'm so darned cute when I'm in it, I should get to play in it all the time. Anyway, I have some friends on the saucer that are pretty cool and I'd like you to meet them.

This is my sheep...

Our relationship is pretty self explanatory by the  picture. I eat him. All the time. He's the silent type so he doesn't talk much and I try not to bother him with words. But he tastes nice. So I chew on his butt.

These are my chicken friends...

My goal in life as far as they are concerned is to spin them until their heads fall off. I haven't succeeded yet... but one day....

This is my cow friend...

We are "into it" 90% of the time. I'm mean to him. He stares at me. I yell back. He's hateful.

This is my friend Piggy...

I love Piggy. He's my favorite. I pet him and love him and rarely ever eat him. Piggy is awesome.

And this little sucker... this is Horsey...

I'm afraid if I touch Horsey, I'll turn into a girl. I just stare at him but keep my distance. He's not my friend but he hangs around the others so I just deal with him. You know...everyone has one of "those" friends.

And those are my friends. Thanks for letting me tell you all about them!

What if we all acted this way... and other rants from Captain Cranky

I had a doctor's appointment today at 1:15pm. I show up at 1:00 pm. I get all the forms filled out, pay the co-pay, and sit and wait. At 1:15pm I'm called back to the room. I talk to the nurse for a few short minutes. She gets her information and then says, "The doctor is just finishing up his lunch break. We'll be back in a few minutes."

Now I think to myself, "If he is just finishing up his lunch, I'll probably be sitting here for about 15 minutes waiting." That seems perfectly reasonable to me. At 1:30pm, I think, "Maybe just a few more minutes. Won't be long now."

At 1:50pm, I begin to get irritable. We are officially past "finishing up" lunch. We are now taking another lunch on top of our previous lunch.

At 2:05pm the doctor graces me with his presence. I was out of the office by 2:15pm.

And now I ask... why is it that doctors/doctors offices can act this way? If you made an appointment with someone at 1:15pm and then moseyed on in 50 minutes later... would you not be reprimanded? Or lose a client? Or lose your job?

I make appointments with students all the time. Sometimes things happen and I'm 5 to 10 minutes late. But darned near an hour?! After I've been told you are "finishing up" lunch? How unbelievable arrogant of you to assume your time is more important than mine. And to come in and not even apologize for taking so long. GRRRRRRRR!

It is unfair I tell you... Unfair. All I'm asking for is a little honesty.  Here is a list of things (I love lists) that would have made this experience okay.

Nurse: "It'll be a little while. The doctor is just now getting his steak on the grill."

Nurse: "The doctor went to school for 8+ years so when he's good and ready we'll get started."

A sign at the front desk: "We tend to run 30 min to an hour behind. Twilight saga in the corner if you want to read them all in the mean time."

When they called to confirm: "Yes, I see your appointment is at 1:15pm. If you could roll on in between 1:30 and 2:00pm we should be fine."

Lastly, upon signing in receptionist says: "It'll be a while. You can watch HBO in the room to your left or the napping room is down the hall on your right. We'll wake you when he's ready."

Ahhh if the world would just ask me for suggestions more often...

Because I do everything Ashley does...

Do you have any pets? Not anymore. But I look forward to a house with a dog.

What color shirt are you wearing? White

Name three things that are physically close to you: A mess... Kool-Aid.. and reciepts

What is the last book you read? Are You There God? It's Me Margaret (Yes that is a preteen book. What do you make of it?

Are you or were you a good student? Dorky to a fault

What's your favorite sport? Softball

Do you enjoy sleeping late? Eh... as long as I sleep good I'm alright.

What's the weather like right now? Beautiful!

Who tells the best jokes? Jim Gaffigan?

What was the last thing you dreamed about? Offering an opening on my staff in the most peculiar way.

Do you drive? If so, have you ever crashed? Yes... and I've been crashed into.

Do you believe in karma? Karma by name? No. But I believe God will take care of what needs to be taken care of.

Do you believe in luck? Nope... just that life's not fair.

Do you like your eggs scrambled or sunny side up? I have never had a sunny side up egg in my entire life. Love eggs though.

Do you collect anything? If so, what? Awesomeness. I have an abundance. :-)

Are you proud of yourself? I rock, so yeah.

Are you reliable? Yeah...

Have you ever given money to a bum? Never money... bought several meals though.

What's your favorite food? Mexican. No, Italian. No, dessert. No, sandwiches... what was the question?

Have you ever had a secret admirer? That's slang for stalker. And no, not to my knowledge.

Do you like the smell of gasoline? So much that I'm embarrassed about it.

Do like to draw? Yes but I don't.

What's your favorite invention? Toilet paper. Hands down.

Is your room messy? Right now, no. Which is an amazing feat all in itself.

What do you like better: oranges or apples? Oranges. Apples have to be the most boring fruit.

Do you give in easily? I'm lazy in general. If it bodes well for me to give in so I can watch tv, then yeah. Otherwise, I'm as stubborn as a mule.

Are you a good guesser? I'm fairly intuitive.

Can you read other people's expressions? Ha! Yeah... its hard to keep a secret around me.

Are you a bully? No... I like to be mean to bullies though.

Do you have a job? Luckily...

What time did you wake up this morning? 7:00 AM

What did you eat for breakfast this morning? Mocha.

When was the last time you showered? This morning.

What do you plan on doing tomorrow? Date with the bestie... play with the son... eat and sleep.

What's your favorite day of the week and why? I don't have a favorite day of the week. I like to laugh. So Laughday.

Do you have any nicknames? Boss Lady. KK. Big Momma. Way back in the day... Peanut.

Have you ever been scuba diving? That will never happen.

What's your least favorite color? Yellow

Is there someone you have been constantly thinking about? If yes, who? That little fat man that stole my heart back in January.

Would you ever go skydiving? Only if kidnapped and pushed from the plane.

What toothpaste do you use? Colgate Total Whitening.

Do you enjoy challenges? I don't go looking for one but I sure enjoy kicking one in the bunghole.

What's the worst injury you have had? C-section. Does that count? Otherwise my teeth going through my lip hurt some.

What's the last movie you saw? Toy Story 3

What do you want to know about the future? Will I adopt? Will I get a promotion? Will I have another baby? What will Sam grow up to be?

What does your last text message say? "I have a surprise for you in your office."

Who was the last person you spoke over the phone to? Mr. Turner

What's your favorite school subject? Most of them but History. Hate history. Probably Math though. You can control Math. English is open to interpretation. Science is harder to control. Yeah math.

What's your least favorite school subject? History... I just said that.

Would you rather have money or love? Who says money? Donald Trump and the Devil that's who.

What is your dream vacation? Transatlantic cruise that tours the Mediterranean.

What is your favorite animal? Dogs. More specifically... puppies.

Do you miss anyone right now? Family. Staff. Friends. If I love you and you live outside of Little Rock, then yes.

What's the last sporting event you watched? I have a pretty serious sport watching deficiency that needs to be remedied.

Do you need to do laundry? Always.

Where were you when 9/11 happened? In my car on the way to Small Gas Engines my senior year of high school.

What do you do when vending machines steal your money? Hit the change button 145 times rapid fire then take it as a sign from God that I'm fat and move on.

Have you ever caught a butterfly? No, but I've caught fireflies and squeezed glow stuff out their butt.

What color are your bed sheets? Tan

What's your ringtone? Ain't No Mountain High

Who was the last person to make you laugh? Me probably. I crack myself up.

Do you have any obsessions right now? Family Feud.

Do you like things that glow in the dark? Eh...

What's your favorite fruity scent? Orange

Do you watch cartoons? Spongebob

Have you ever sat on a roof? Yes

Have you ever been to a different country? Yes: Mexico, Honduras, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, France

Name three things in the world you dislike: Close-minded republicans, blind southern democrats, and grapefruits.

Name three people in the world you dislike: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Michael Moore.

Has a rumor ever been spread about you? LOL Yeah... I was on my deathbed once. That one was fun.

Do you like sushi? Yes...and Ashley will too one day.

Do you believe in magic? Nope.

Do you hold grudges? Yeah, I have a "letting go" of it problem.